Saturday, August 1, 2020

Catherine Elliott McKinsey

I wrote a post for Memorial Day more than two months ago that I liked so much, I had trouble writing a new post that would cause my Memorial Day post to move down to get hidden among my miscellaneous posts which have no order.  But I had a dna match get in touch with me last week.  The two of us share Catherine Elliott McKinsey....she is 4-gr-grandmother to both of us.  And I wrote an e-mail to her that had so much information in it that I wanted to preserve it by putting it on my blog.  This e-mail is a "road map" telling an overall view of my Elliott family.  One can then use the search box on this blog site to pull up more specific posts about the Elliott and McKinsey family.  Here is part of what I wrote to her:

 I know lots and lots and lots about this family and I am happy to share!  Let me start by sending you links to blog posts that I have written over the years….and then you can ask questions about what I need to clarify.  I am not the best to go back and edit my old posts, so I always appreciate having people ask for clarification if I haven’t made something clear or if I have done more research since the original post. 

Put Elliott in the search box….that will pull up posts that have the name Elliott in them.  And since I don’t know how much you know about this family line I will give you a quick road map,  My best tree is on Ancestry….you can get to it by clicking on the link on my blog home page.  If you are not a member of Ancestry, let me  know and I’ll send you an invitation.  I have been told that the link to my Ancestry tree on my blog site doesn’t work if the person clicking on it is not an Ancestry member.  And I do have an adequate tree on MyHeritage as well if you want to look there….everything I do is PUBLIC….I want to share with as many people as possible anything that I know!  I love these ancestors and I never get tired of telling their stories…and if at any time you need instant help with anything, my phone number is 340-638-3348….you might text if you are unable to get me so that I know who it is who is trying to get in touch.   

The earliest Elliott ancestor in my tree is 

The first I will start with is John Ellot/Elliot born about 1665 (dates are of my own deduction) and died in 1693, Kingsessing, Chester Co. Pa.  

It is this John Ellot’s grandson, Jacob who moves his family in the mid 1700s to what is now Randolph County, NC.  They live on Polecat Creek until the Revolutionary War when Jacob moves his family to Virginia for safety as he is a staunch Quaker and is trying to stay totally out of the Revolution.  This is one of my favorite genealogy stories….if it is not readily available on my blog, ask me to find it for you!  

After the Revolution they move back to NC.  I haven’t done the research to know exactly the sequence of events….but I guess that Jacob and Elizabeth die in Randolph County and the children begin to move from NC.  The Quaker families moved en mass in the first decade of the 1800s out of the south and into the non-slave states of Ohio and Indiana….However, Jacob’s children stop first in TN at the Lost Creek MM…..and then move again to Ohio and Indiana,

Catherine’s father, Abraham, actually moves his family to Indiana near what is now Richmond, Indiana.  But during the war of 1812, he moves his family back to Warren County, Ohio for safety from the Indians….and it is here that Catherine meets Nehemiah McKinsey and they are married.  After the war, Nehemiah who is not Quaker receives bounty land in Indiana for his service during the war….and Abraham accompanies his daughter and her husband and takes all of his other children except for Abner who has married Hannah Stubbs.  Abner moves to Prebble County, Ohio and lives with the Quaker families in that area who are the friends and neighbors of his wife. 

Abraham dies in Indiana…..I think in Vigo County….and Nehemiah and Catherine move from Vigo County to Clinton County by the census of 1850.  I descend from their oldest child:  Andrew Jackson McKinsey.  A.J. has a wife who dies young leaving him with three young children.  He leaves these children with his parents and goes to California as everyone is doing in this time period.  The children are totally raised by his parents and I know very little about them as I descend from A.J. and his second wife who he marries in California.  My Grandmother was 4th generation Californian when she met my grandfather and moved back to the East to marry him.  He moved her to Huntington WV where I live today…..and my father was born in 1924 here in Huntington.  

Ok…..that is the road map.  Ask any questions that you have.  Marsha Hawkins Moses

PS.  I have equal amounts of information about the McKinsey family and when you are ready to hear those stories, I’ll give you a road map for the McKinsey and Moore side of the family,  And Also if I mention documentation, I am happy to send that to you as well…I have most of it digitalized so it isn’t hard.  

Monday, May 25, 2020

Memorial Day 2020

I woke up this morning thinking about Memorial Day.  What is Memorial Day?  This is the answer given to my google search:

Memorial Day is observed on the last Monday of May. It was formerly known as Decoration Day and commemorates all men and women who have died in military service for the United States. Many people visit cemeteries and memorials on Memorial Day and it is traditionally seen as the start of the summer season.

All of these are good answers.  My peonies are in full bloom in my yard.  Jack and I often picked them and put them in vases for the cemetery.  Since Jack died, I rarely do that.  Early on in my widowhood, Katie put two beautiful hanging baskets on the Moses graves.  I liked that a lot and have done the same thing over the years.  And many years my grandkids have accompanied me for that.  This year the Goldy family is in flat top and Jason and his kids have moved out of my house, so it is quiet here.  I may do the decorating by myself.

The war of most interest to me in my life right now is the revolutionary War.  It is where much of my research is in this part of my life.  Much of my research includes the words "just before the Revolution" or just after the Revolution" to put in perspective when my family was doing certain things.

However, WWII became a topic for my reading in the last few years, so it is also of interest.  For books I have particularly liked, put WWII in the search box of my Book Collector Blog:

But as I drink my coffee this morning I am going to just add photos of my dad and my uncles and my children's grandfather and uncles and ancestors as they served in the various branches of military and in various wars through the history of the US.  This will be an ongoing project.  I will start with the easy ones that I have already scanned.

Below is my dad during WWII:  James Marshall Hawkins

And Dad and mom in same time period:

Then I got distracted with wanting to put some photos of me and my grandkids decorating graves over the years:


2017....Kya must have been the only one who went with me:

Ok....going to take a break and go do some decorating this morning.

Sunday, May 10, 2020

Ironton ancestors

I have a photo that has to be from the family of Clara Margaret Hornberger Sammons.  I do not know who this couple is.  I do not believe it to be Clara's parents.


Here is the back of the photo;

above information from below book found on-line.

And from this next book:

So it is likely that the photo was taken between 1866 and 1884.

Why do I think it likely that this is not a photo of Clara's parents?  Clara's parents were married c.1888 going by ages of the children.  Emma seems to have been the oldest child and she was born Feb 1889.  The dates of the photographer are before the couple were married.  It also doesn't look like Clara's parents.  So this couple is older than Fred Hornberger and his wife, Maggie Schmitt.

Saturday, May 9, 2020

Forest Charles Sammons (1895-1954)

My grandfather, Forest Charles Sammons, was an amazing man.  I am scanning photos from his family and his life this spring.  I found a promotion that he received in 1915 that I just scanned and I wanted to add this telegram to his timeline.  So I am starting with this scan.

Forest would have just turned 20 in June of this year.  He married Clara Margaret Hornberger in Nov of 1915.  So this was a very big year for Forest.

Wednesday, May 6, 2020

Original Quaker records

If you are an Ancestry member, you can access over 6 million original records from Quaker families. For me my Ancestry membership is worth the price for just this one thing....although I do use Ancestry for dna and other reasons including census records as well,

Here is how to access the Quaker records.  First sign into Ancestry.  Second go to the drop down menu that is labelled Search and choose search card catalogue:

This will take you  to a search area.  Type in Quaker in the search box labelled Keyword.

Push the orange button Search.  And then from the list of Quaker choices scroll down until you find the one that has over 6 million pieces of information.  It is labelled US Quaker Meeting Records
1681 -1935

Choose this option.  This will bring up a search page in which you can search by the specific surname or ancestor of interest to you.

I was playing with this site to see what I could find about Lost Creek MM.  Ancestry also has the Hinshaw Encyclopedia on line.  However, when I tried to browse Hinshaw for information about Lost Creek, I was not given the option to choose TN.   Which makes me think that Hinshaw did not include Lost Creek in his books.However, when I went to the site with over 6 million original records, and chose the box to the far right, I was able to put in Tennessee, Jefferson County, and Lost Creek MM in order to browse those records.

I must have done something wrong.  I do find pages that I have copied on another post on this site that have pages from Hinshaw that index Lost Creek.  I'll try to correct this when I get a few extra minutes.

Tuesday, May 5, 2020

Wedding of Jesse Marshall Hawkins and Nora Belle (Bird) Beuhring

I am still scanning.  Today I found a description of the wedding of Nora Belle and Jesse Marshall.

I will try to add photos and etc as I have time.  If you would like to have a digital copy of this, send me an e-mail and I'll send so you can read it better.

Saturday, April 18, 2020

Who are these people? Alsace Lorraine?

I am still sorting and scanning and thinking.  But I have found a pile of photos and etc for which I can not begin to figure out who they are or why I have them.  So this is a post where I will put some "stuff" and ask for help.  The first is a letter from a woman who had access to a typewriter but did not date her letter to her cousins.  She signs the letter Anna H.  Hawkins?  Hornberger?  Later as I look further into the items, I realize that the original letter was in her own handwriting.  Someone had typed the French to English translation.

Oh, my goodness!  As I arrived lower in the pile that I am going through, I saw something amazing!  I am VERY excited!  I am beginning to think that this pile is from Alsace Lorraine!  Here is what I found:

So the above in conjunction to the letter below is pointing to what I am looking at as having come from Alsace Lorraine.  I believe it likely that it was among the "things" that were in Fred Hornberger's home that my grandmother, Clara Margaret Hornberger Sammons took home with her when Emma Hornberger died.  Emma never married and probably lived in the home place.  I will do some more looking at this!  I am very excited!

So a quick google of Belmont shows the following:

From Wikipedia:  Until 1871, Belfort was part of the département of Haut-Rhin, in Alsace. The Siege of Belfort (between 3 November 1870 and 18 February 1871) during the Franco Prussian war was successfully resisted by the French until the garrison was ordered to surrender 21 days after the armistice between France and Prussia ended the war. The region was not annexed by Prussia like the rest of Alsace was. It was exchanged for territories in the vicinity of Metz. It formed, as it still does, the Territoire de Belfort. The siege is commemorated by a huge statue, the Lion of Belfort, by Frédéric Bartholdi. Alsatians not wanting to live under German rule in annexed Alsace and who wanted a French life and home in Belfort made a significant contribution to Belfort and French industry (see Société Alsacienne de Constructions Mécaniques) after 1872.

 I am continuing to look through these items a few days later.  It seems that the letter and photo were actually in my grandmother's belongings.  And Mom remembers knowing about them.  It would seem that Clara and Forest sent some money to help this relative of Clara.  Here is the address on the back of the envelope from Anna Hornberger Rougegoutte?  And she seems to be living in Mt. Rohi

And then there is the next photo.  I do not recognize these people.  

Another photo that I do not recognize is a photo of an unknown Bride in Cincinnati.  Cinn would seem to reflect the Schweickart or Hornberger family.   Perhaps Fred Hornberger and his second wife,  Anna Margaret Hummel went to Cinn for honeymoon or marriage?  And had photo snapped there.  My best guess was that there marriage was c.1902-1904 and Fred's bride was around 40 when they married.  They never had children together that I know of.  Mom said that Fred's second wife had a withered hand....perhaps this pose is chosen to hide her handicap?  I also know there were Schweikarts in Cinn....could this bride be related to them?

The next photo is of two young girls on front porch steps.  According to an article by Catherine Bliss Enslow in the Herald Adertiser in 1969, the very high, uncomfortable collars on lace blouses was stylish in the late 1800s.