Thursday, July 15, 2021

Dna match between me and Mike Tillman

I am editing this post in Nov 2022. Mike Tillman had a breakthrough in his research.  He has discovered that on his dad's side there is an adoption which obscured the fact that indeed Mike has ancestor Benjamin Franklin Carey  Mike descends from Ben and his first wife, Mariah Carey, through their daughter, Elizabeth.  I am going to leave the rest of the post alone.  Just remember that the segment that Mike and I share came from either Absalom Carey or Temperance Cooley.  Too most of the post has nothing to do with Mike and my match.


This post is VERY iffy!  So if you are reading this much later than today's date, e-mail me and ask what I found out at the end of the day.  I have a dna match with Mike Tillman that we know is on Chromosome #13 in the place that I match with Barbara Raemer through our mutual ancestor, Benjamin Franklin Carey.

This has been a trip with Mary and family from WV to Boston and last night we ended up in Providence, RI.  And it seems possible that my Carpenter family may have lived here quite early.  So I am exploring the idea that Mike and I share this chromosome segment from the Carpenter/Reynolds family line.


The above image was found at:

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_early_settlers_of_Rhode_Island

You can see that William Carpenter and William Reynolds live quite close together in the Providence RI area in the very early days of Providence.  Could these men be the ancestors that Mike and I share?  I will work on the idea as I have time.  


My group was staying in the Marriott Courtyard that is next door to the mall.  The small kiosk to buy one's ticket which was also the place to get on the bus was directly across the street from our hotel and next door to the Graduate hotel which is in the large building that has Biltmore sign on it.  

Our tour guide was excellent.  We learned about the facts that Roger Williams was the founder of the Providence plantations.  And the important information that made me love this early town:  Roger Williams was a most progressive individual.  I would like to think that my ancestors were like minded and chose to live in his neighborhood because they agreed with him.  Here is a bit of information from Wikipedia about Roger Williams:




The tour guide explained that Roger Williams lived in Salem, Massachusetts.  He was told he had to leave but could stay until the end of the winter if he promised not to preach.  But his followers continued to meet with him in his home in such numbers that the governing fathers decided that he was not abiding by his promise.  They made a plan to put him on a ship bound to England.  However, John Wintrop warned him of the plan and he escaped in the middle of the night.  He lived with the Narragansett Indian tribe until the end of the winter.  That spring he bought land from the Indians and settled in what is now Providence RI.  

Why was he kicked out of Salem?  The tour guide said that it was because he had dangerous ideas:  that he believed in the separation of church and state!  Roger Williams set his new Providence Plantations up so that the governing body was totally separate from the religious entities.  All were welcome to settle there regardless of their religion.  They could worship as they pleased.  

One of the other things that I love the man for is that he wrote a book about the Indian's language and customs.  His thought was that if everyone had a better understanding of the Indian ways, they could live among each other in peace,  

The tour guide agreed to drive by the lots that had belonged to the original settlers.  He explained that while Roger Williams home is no longer standing, there is a marker showing where he lived.  And that the street named Angell Street is approximately where Thomas Angell was living in the time period.  So one can get an idea of where William Carpenter and William Reynolds were living.  Here are a few photos that I took as we drove by.  The all give some idea if one is looking in the right area:




 I  guess that the island mentioned in some of the Carpenter documentation would have been as shown below?  



There is some documentation on Lynda McGinnis' Ancestry site for my own Carpenter family:


And in the book on her site called 

†his book is available on Hathitrust

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This does not show up well.  I'll zero in on the neighborhood in which the early settlers lived below:


Main Street on the modern map its the second street from the river on which the RISD Museum is located.  You can see Angell Street clearly.  According to the book about the Carpenter family that is explained in the cover page shown above, there was a highway between the land of Robert Coles and William Carpenter.  This road is now called Meeting Street because the Friends Meeting house was built on William Carpenter's lot.

Also on page 26 of the book is the following:




Pautuxet is shown with red marker in above map.

There is a description of an Indian attack on the home of William Carpenter on pages 26-27 during King Philip's war in January 1676.

Ok.  I quit for the night.  It seems that Lynda McGinnis does not believe that the William Carpenter who I have presented in this blog post belongs to our tree.  I will work on another post first chance that I get on the Carpenter family to which we belong.


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