William Webb with wife Nancy

I am at the Filson Historical Society library today.  And I have decided to concentrate on my Webb line.  I have found buddies who descend from my Webb line.  And I am organizing my thoughts about this family based on new information received from this group.

First, it seems that William and Thomas Webb live next to each other in Logan County, Kentucky in 1810.  These men are thought to be related because of DNA matches.  William is probably my 4-gr-grandfather.  William is between 26 and 44 and his wife is in the same age range.  They have 2 sons under 10 and one daughter under 10.  My own ancestor, Nancy, has not been born yet.  My buddies tell me it is likely that the two sons are Isaac born in 1797 in NC and William Jr. born 1799.

Marriage of Matilda Pinkard and Thomas Ross Hawkins

I am chatting with a new buddy this morning.  Paul Stephens is a dna match to me on Ancestry.  I became very excited when I saw his tree because Paul descends from Thomas Ross Hawkins and Matilda Pinkard through their daughter (sister to my Edward Pinkard Hawkins), Martha Druscilla Hawkins who married James R. Poindexter.  I am sitting on the porch on Memorial day working on genealogy until the sun hits my toes!  And I am reviewing the information that Paul sent to me and adding to my data base and deciding what to send to Paul first.  And the following jumped out at me:

p. 55, 8-28-1823, Mitilda Pinchard(not a typo) m. Thomas R. Hawkins by James Garnett, Sr. (Crooked Run Baptist 1772-1986 located at 38 degrees 21.723' N, 78 degrees 6.441'W, Rapidan, VA, south of Culpeper at junction of Hwys 614 & 615).  You can see historical marker on-line if you google Crooked Run Baptist.

I have been up and down that highway many times and have not stopped to take a photo of the marker. 

Crooked Run Baptist Church was organized in 1772 and is named for the stream that flows nearby. James Garnett Sr., one of the early pastors, served the congregation from 1774 until close to his death in 1830. ..... The first meeting of the Orange Baptist Association occurred here in 1789. At first the members met in a meeting house, but by 1856 they had built a brick structure. This church was destroyed by a fire in 1910 and rebuilt the same year using the remains of the brick walls. Crooked Run is located 10 miles south of Culpeper on Rte. 15, near Rapidan.

 So the building that one would see now is not the same building in which T.R. and Matilda married.  There seems to be a history of the church available to read at one's local LDS FHL: 

James Hawkins living in Stafford County in right time frame to be Thomas R. Hawkins' father

I am hot on pursuit of adding James Hawkins as my 4-gr-grandfather!  I have worked on a father for Thomas Ross Hawkins for more than 20 years!  However, this past year I found a crazy new clue ....I think it was on Ancestry? that Thomas was born in Stafford County, Virginia ....not in Orange which had been my working theory for all of those years.  Thomas's daughter, Angelina, has death certificate that says her father was born in Stafford County!  So I began a new search.

Then, I received a huge clue from my best research buddy, Elaine, that she had found a tax record in Stafford County for James Hawkins paying tax for William Ross in exactly the right time frame for marriage and birth of Thomas Ross Hawkins.  Certainly this is beginning to make some sense, huh?

I am absolutely obsessed with the dna right now after having attended a all day conference in Richmond at which Blaine Bettinger spoke.  And then attending the Ohio Genealogical Society's Annual conference in Mason, Ohio.  Again I took a workshop from Blaine and heard other dna speakers.  Added to that is the fact that MyHeritage has added Cluster reports.  Ancestry has added thrulines.  And Blaine has taught me how to use dnapainter.  I have an entire cluster of 8-11 people who match me on Chromosome #13 and have connections to Hawkins.  Then I have three on FTDNA that match in the same place and have connections to Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins.  One through daughter, Mildred.  One through son Benjamin. So many of my matches connect to the Hawkins/Bourne couples that I have given up the theory ....at least temporarily....that I connect to a different orphan than Benjamin who married Sarah Willis.

Last night I was messing around on all of my dna sites.  And I found the following on a public tree on ancestry:



and here is the list of wife and children:

There is something wrong with this picture?  Margaret Jane is 21 when she has her first child.  They have three children right in a row.  Then 16 years later when Margaret Jane is 41 to 50 they have 6 more ....Now this is not impossible.  But highly unlikely.  I think it much more likely that James had a wife with maiden name Ross as first wife.  He and his first wife were married before 1791.  They may have had 8 children beginning in 1791 and last child was probably Moses born in 1812.  This wife died about then.  James remarried to Margaret Jane.  The family moved to Kentucky.  The older children were already married by this time (or were at least old enough to be good help in the move) and they moved their families to Kentucky with the group.  The two youngest children, Jane and Moses, went with the family as well.  They would have been babies or toddlers.   But the children born in the 16 year gap in the above family stayed with Uncle Benjamin and Aunt Mary/Polly in Orange County, Virginia.  Thomas Ross Hawkins had probably moved down to Orange County to go to school when his mother died.  And the two teenaged girls, Mary and Elizabeth, then joined him....and maybe Benjamin did as well.  I don't know much about Benjamin.