Coffin Family of Nantucket

Nancy Magnuson sent me information about our mutual Coffin family.  Both of us descend from Tristram and Dionis Coffin.  Nancy descends through their son, Tristram.  I descend through their daughter, Mary who married Nathaniel Starbuck.  This post is not about Tristram and Dionis nor about their children.  Instead I want to put some URL's and some information to follow up on later about the origins of Tristram Coffin's ancestors.  Some of which Nancy sent me and some that I have found from sites that she suggested.

http://4dtraveler.net/2011/10/04/coffin-family-peter-sr-nicholas-peter-jr/

Nancy was lucky enough to have made a trip and taken photos of her own that relate to the Coffin family before Tristram and Dionis moved from England to what is now New England on our shores:

I have some pictures of this past trip at http://pinterest.com/nmagnuso/my-trip-to-wales-and-england-2012/

One of the things that I notice on this blog is that at the bottom of the post there are related posts mentioned that one can follow up on.  I would like to add that to my blog.

Nancy sent me the name of a book:

hi, Marsha.  Was just thinking we haven't been in touch for quite a while though I see you a lot on the listserv.  I wanted to recommend this book to you -- Carminow by Elsie Balme.  It's an historical novel about Roger de Carminow, 13th century, and ancestor of Marie Boscawen Coffin  (and us, of course).  Roger claimed to be descended from King Arthur so that's fun to think about!  --Nancy

My answer to Nancy:

Thank you so much for thinking of me, Nancy!  Just bought it for $4.99 on my Kindle.....I have been reading lots of historical fiction recently via audible.com....this one was not available in that format....but I'll try to get around to reading it and get back to you.

I am reading Carminow at this point in time and is what inspired me to work on this particular blog post. For my review of the book go to:

http://serendipityreading.blogspot.com/2014/04/magnuson-and-i-worked-together-on.html

Nancy suggested that I might want to look at the following:

The connection is through Marie Boscawen who married Peter Coffin.  Marie's parents were Philippa Carminowe and Hugh Boscawen.  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=102479412 Then I traced them back from The Visitation of Cornwall.  If you haven't used the Visitations before, you should take a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraldic_visitation

Second Beuhring Reunion

On Saturday afternoon, Melba and Cliff and I visited Larry Beuhring at his home in Chesapeake, Ohio.    Below is a photo of the three of us.  All three of us descend from Frederick George Louis Beuhring and his son, Frederick Dannenburg Konig Beurhing.

During our afternoon together, we shared information.  Some of it was new.  Some of it was well known.  And some of it I want to follow up on when I get a chance.  

Larry told us that the land on which the building that was used for church and Marshall Academy in the very early days of Cabell County stood was BOUGHT from Holderby for $40.  There was one and one quarter acre at this place.  I need to make this work with the tradition that Holderby donated the land.  Was the land that he donated adjoining the acre and one quarter?  Is there a deed that proves the $40 purchase?

He also told us that there is a church in Celle that has records in which FGL's father is named.

Marshall University Documents

Melba Guard and her husband, Cliff, returned for another visit to work on research on our mutual Beuhring family.  Last night Melba let me copy documents that I have continued the entire day to just shake my head at the amazing discovery that these documents exist.  One of the documents is a bill to establish Marshall College that is dated 12 January 1838.  The bill was passed 30 March 1838.

The below document is just one of five pages  that are found on the Library of Virginia website.  If you would like to look at the pages for yourself, go to Virginia Memory 

LEGISLATIVE PETITIONS DIGITAL COLLECTION

http://www.virginiamemory.com/collections/petitions

Type in Cabell for the locality with no keyword nor subject and push search.  This will give you a collection of 137 documents.  The one that deals with Marshall Academy being given college status is #94.  

Among the names that are listed on the petition is Frederick G.L. Beuhring---Melba's 2-gr-grandfather and my 3-gr-grandfather.

Men who sold land in Frederick County in 1771 who may have moved to Newberry County

I am going through a Deed Book compiled by Amelia C. Gilreath in the Handley Library.  This book is:  Frederick County Virginia Deed Book Series, Volume 4    Deed Books 12, 13, 14, 1767-1771.  I am only looking at the deeds for land that exchanged hands in the year 1771 which is the year that George McKenny and wife Margaret sold their land.  (I am not being careful about spelling of George's last name....it was spelled two or more ways in the same deed, so they were not careful)

Bk 14, pl 314-2 April 1771
Samuel Pearson of County of Frederick to Samuel Washington of the same county.  One of the witnesses was Isiah Pemberton

Richard Merchang of County of Frederick to Thomas Campbell of the same county. (Marchant bought his land from Lord Fairfax 30 April 1760)

It is interesting to note that My ancestor, Jacob Miller's family are mentioned a great deal in the Deeds of Frederick County....there is one 8 May 1771 that mentions that Barbara Ott (wife of Henry Ott) is sole exc of her father, Jacob's, will....and that her mother has died.....and that Wolrick is getting inheritance....Ulrich?......I can not make this make sense.....and don't have time to spend on it.

George McKinsey's family might have been in Frederick County, Virginia before Newberry

On my way between Burlington, VT (where I spent time with my daughter, Sarah, and her family) to Richmond (for the National Genealogical Society's 2014 Conference),  I stopped in Frederick County, Virginia to do a bit of research on the possibility that my 5-gr-grandfather, George McKinsey, may have had roots in Frederick County, Virginia.  I had a bit of bad luck with traffic and managed to drive to the Handley library in Winchester, Virginia just in time to find the archives room closed for the day.  However, the main library has a few books of interest and I'll take a look at those until I have to leave.  The Handley library is a treat of itself.  Quite the charming, historical building!

Bruce Locken, Harriet Imrey, and I have been chatting for some time about the possibility that George McKinsey who is in Newberry County, SC during the Revolutionary War may have had ties to Frederick County, Virginia.  For previous blog posts pertaining to this subject go to:

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/07/mckinney-and-geertsema-map.html

And for more information on George McKinsey and his family go to:

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/09/george-mckinseys-wife-was-sarah-moore.html

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2013/07/loyalists-in-bush-river-area-of-south.html

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/05/sarah-moore-mckinsey-wife-of-george.html

The first book that I have pulled off the shelf is Pioneers of Old Frederick County by Cecil O'Dell.  One of the questions that I hoped to answer on this trip is:  Who was moving into Frederick County in the 1750's?  From where?  Why?  Why were families moving out of the area to the Carolinas in 1771?

I find that much of Mr. O'Dell's information is about a period of time before George McKinsey is found buying land in the area.  The book is excellent, however, and I will look for a copy.

I know when George McKinsey first bought land in Frederick County from the deed of the sale of his land in 1771 which says:

.....Containing one hundred and ninety four Acres Granted to said George McKenny by Deed from the Hand and Seal of the Right Honorable Thomas Lord Fairfax the 18th Oct 1756.....

 I next pulled   Wilmer Kern's book,  Settlement and Some First Families of Back Creek Valley.   I had wondered if the Fairfax/Hite suit had affected George's decision to move to South Carolina.  Wilmer Kerns says on page 17:  "the Fairfax suit was settled in 1745 when Fairfax won the suit."
Mr. O'Dell had indicated that some of the families who chose to move out of the area did so because of the dispute between Fairfax and Hite in which men were required to repurchase the land on which they lived because of a change in ownership.   That is the men had purchased land from Hite.  When Fairfax won the suit,  they were told that they would need to pay the Fairfax agents.   Many of these families were not interested in repurchasing their land when there was cheap land to be bought in the Carolinas.   George had bought his land from Fairfax, so this would not have been the reason that he moved.

Neither book mentions anyone with name George Kinsey/Kensie/McKinsey/McKensie.  Both books mention John McKensie and William McKenzie.

 For good information about the Fairfax grant, go to:

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/settleland/fairfaxgrant.html

Harris DNA group #27

Please remember when reading through the below that much of it may not be true.  This post is just a place to hang some information that I was looking at in Spring 2014 that I don't want to loose.

I was sorting out some thoughts tonight about Trey Harris' line in Goochland County, Virginia.  Trey is a yDNA match to my children's great uncle, Everett Harris.   What do I know about Trey's Harris family when they lived in Virginia?  First, Trey descends from Samuel G. Harris and his wife Trifenah Harris.  This couple married in Buckingham County, Virginia 30 Sept 1790.  Trifenah's maiden name was Harris.  The marriage was performed by Rev Chastaine.  Rev Chastaine was affiliated with the same church of which Sarah Guthrey and John Apperson were members.

Buckingham Baptist Church was founded on May 7, 1771. Rev. Rene Chastain became its first pastor, and he pastored the church for 53 consecutive years from 1771 until his death in 1823.

We have another yDNA match, Chris Harris, who also descends from Samuel G. Harris and his wife, Trifenah Harris and thus we consider him a part of our DNA group #27.  Samuel G. and Trifenah moved their family to Union County, SC by 1791 as their son, Thomas, is said to have been born about 1791 in Union County, SC.  Trey's family has remained in that area for several generations.

Ancestry sites have information that would connect Samuel G. Harris to Thomas Harris who was born in Goochland County, Virginia in 1743.  Thomas' will is found at:

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/Thumbnails.aspx?recordId=298912

Note that his witnesses are Thomas and Richard Harris and that I do not have them among the list of children for this couple....have I missed them or are these men another relationship to Thomas?  Perhaps brothers?

This could be correct as Samuel G. and Trifenah name their first son Thomas.  

What do I know about Thomas and Sarah/Sally Harris?  

Sarah leaves a will.  Her husband is already deceased.  The will is dated 18 Jul 1810 and proved in Oct of that same year.  Union County WIll Book A pp. 157-158

Here is the link to will: 

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/ViewImage.aspx?imageNumber=S108093002700275000a.jpg&recordId=299044

But the main reason that I started this post is that I didn't want to loose some thoughts that I had this spring about this family.  As I was looking at some of the Ancestry information about them one night, it came to me that they were Quaker.  So I pulled out my Hinshaw CD and found the following:  There is a marriage between Daniel Harris and Mary Hutchins in the records for Henrico MM:

Ancestry site says that Daniel was born in Hanover County in 1705

If this is right parents for Trey, Pat says that this Harris line is DNA group #20.

Then I started looking at the Lacy family.  Trey and I think there is a possibility that we may be cousins with an ancestor in our past with last name Lacy....very iffy....but possible.  

Ira Harris had a post:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HARRIS-COLONIALVA/2005-01/1104707114

that mentions a marriage between Thomas Harris and Sarah/Sallie Lacy.  And he gives the Douglas Register as a possible source.  Ancestry has the Douglas Register at:

http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=25436 

Original data: Douglas, William,. The Douglas register : being a detailed record of births, marriages and deaths together with other interesting notes, as kept by the Rev. William Douglas, from 1750-1797 : an index of Goochland Wills : notes on the French-Hugeunot [sic] refugees who lived in Manakin-Town. Richmond, Va.: J.W. Fergusson & Sons, 1928.

Hmmmmmmmmm....there is Trey's couple and my ancestors one after the other......but no reason yet to expect to be cousins or whatever.  My Sarah/Sally Lacy married Perrin Farrar...his Sarah/Sally married Thomas Harris.  

Beuhring "Reunion"

Melba Guard came for a visit this week from the Cincinnati area.  Both of us descend from the man pictured to the left (Frederick George Lewis Beuhring) and his wife (Frances Elenore Dannenberg Beuhring) who is pictured below.
Melba contacted me via e-mail after reading several of my posts on this blog on our mutual Beuhring line.  Debbie Campbell who is president of KYOWVA had also given Melba my name.  We agreed to spend several days together gathering information in the Cabell County area to add to Melba's research. She is creating a biography of Frederick Konig Beuhring and also of his father, Frederick George Louis Beuhring.  (guard_m@fuse.net)





Frederick George Louis Beuhring

The family folklore is that FGL had the portraits painted to send to his family in Germany so that they could see his wife and show off the fact that they were well and had prospered.  After WWI or II, the descendants of the family in Germany were in need of money and contacted descendants of FGL in the United States to see if someone might be willing to buy the portraits to raise a bit of cash.  Someone in the family of Kitty Forbes did just that.  Kitty took me to see the portraits.  For more details about this story, see blog post:
 http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/08/beuhring-and-brown-in-cabell-and.html

Frances Elenore Dannenberg Beuhring

Melba is writing a biography of FGL's son Frederick Konig Dannenberg Beuhring.  FKD is Melba's gr-grandfather and my 2-gr grandfather.  FKD married Frances Eleanor (Fannie) Miller in Guyandotte, Virginia in 1838.  Fannie and FKD had nine children.  I descend from their seventh child, Nora Belle (Bird) Beuhring.  Fannie died 12 Oct 1882.  Fannie's youngest son was only seven when she died.

Frederick Konig Dannenberg Beuhring and Frances Elenore Miller Beuhring

FKD wasted no time finding a second wife.  1 Nov 1883 FKD married Mary Jane Earle.  FKD and Mary Jane had two children:  Victor Earl Beuhring and Harold Earl Beuhring.  Melba descends from Harold.  Harold is Melba's grandfather.  During this visit from Melba and her husband, Cliff, we looked at a collection of papers in the Marshall University Special Collections that have been donated by Larry Beuhring on our mutual Beuhring family.  Larry descends from Victor Earl Beuhring.  I was able to get in touch with Larry through Facebook and now have his phone number and e-mail address.  His papers are very well done and are quite worth reviewing if you have a connection to this family.

I will add information about these families in another post.  Other links to Beuhring information in previous posts on my blog are:

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2013/02/beuhring-home-in-huntington-wv.html

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/08/beuhring-and-brown-in-cabell-and.html