John Salmons of Cumberland County and Rowland neighbors

I just bought a book from Craig at the Virginia Genealogical Society's fall event called Southam Parish Land Processioning 1747-1784 Goochland, Cumberland, and Powhatan Counties, Virginia by Ann K. Blomquist.

And sure enough, there is John Salmon mentioned in the same neighborhood with the Rowland family:  (on page 14 of her book)

"we have processoined the lands and marked the lines except John Salmon, Rachel Farris, Nicholas Davies, Benjamin Harrison, John Blevins, John Rowland, Michael Rowland, Benjamin Dumas, Stephen Hughes"

This is not a book to be read lightly.....this is a book to be studied.  I will be adding maps and thoughts to this blog post as I study the 6 references to John and 1 to William Salmons....along with Rowland.

And very interesting there are also references to Phelps in relationship to Harris in this book.  I don't know whether I'll do those separately or if I will add them in here and change the title of the blog post to the name of the book.  You can always get back to this post however with today's date.

Thomas Hawkins of Old Rappahannock County and friends and relatives

Back in 2012, Steve Riggan and I were exchanging information about Thomas Hawkins of Old Rappahannock County and the Thornton and Catlett family.  I don't think that I wrote a blog post at the time, but I was reviewing what I know and wanted to put some ideas down to mull and ponder.

The blog post that I wrote last year about Hawkins/Catlett/Rowzee connections is ( I should have reread it a bit before starting on this....I think that I repeat some of the information here):

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2013/01/hawkinsrowzeecatlett-connections.html

Here is a URL for a transcription for the will of Elizabeth Underwood Taylor Slaughter Catlett Butler.
http://www.combs-families.org/combs/assoc/u-butler.htm

in which she names Thomas Hawkins as a cousin.  However, we all know that Cousin was a bit of a loose term in those days....still it certainly indicates close connection of some sort whether it be an actual relative or not.  This site does not claim to know who the parents of Elizabeth were.  Although it seems that Elizabeth's mother, Margaret,  had marriages to: Underwood,  Upton,  Lucas after  Elizabeth's father was out of her life.  Elizabeth names Edward Rowsee as brother, so perhaps Margaret was first married to a Rowsee?  I just looked on the Northern Neck mail list archives and Kathleen Much explains these connections as:

Her "brother Edward ROWZEE" was her husband John CATLETT's half-brother.
"Cousin Captain Thomas HAWKINS" would have been her husband's cousin on the
mother's side (John CATLETT's mother was Sarah HAWKINS).

Elizabeth married next Col. John CATLETT:

05 Jun 1663-4 (Rappa. Co VA Records 1656-64, p. 326) Mrs. Margaret UPTON als LUCAS to "Francis SLAUGHTER, Junr., Son and heir unto my Son in Law Francis SLAUGHTER, deceased," one cow & increase… if Francis SLAUGHTER, Junr. dies bef 21 years, then to be disposed by "my Daughter Elizabeth CATLETT his lawful Mother… s/Margt [ML] LUCAS. Wits/Allex. FLEMING, John DANDY. (Underwood, Fothergill & Sparacio).  (From the above URL)

Thomas Lucas names his son-in-law as John Catlett in his will dated 14 Oct, 1669.  So it looks to me that it is very likely that Elizabeth Underwood Taylor Slaughter Catlett Butler may certainly have been Thomas Lucas' daughter. ... or perhaps he considers John Catlett to be his son-in-law because Thomas Lucas is married to Margaret who is the mother of Elizabeth.  Either way, their is a strong connection between the Catlett/Hawkins/Lucas family here.

my Beloved husband, Amory BUTLER, Sole Executor and Guardian to my Children and my cousin, Captain Thos. HAWKINS my brother, Edward ROWSEE and Mr. Daniel GAINES, overseers of this my will… provided that if my Executor do not Educate & keep them well that then Mr. Daniel GAINES shall have Guardianship of my Children my sd Executor allowing him a sufficient maintenance for their well being and education according as my Overseers and Executor shll agree and if they do not what the Court shall determine for the same and if Mr. GAINES shall dye my desire is that my Cousin HAWKINS do take the Children 

And in the same time frame as I was chatting with another Hawkins researcher,  I became aware of another family interconnection with this group:  Moseley.  This researcher descends from William Moseley who married Hannah Hawkins.  (I have filed his contact information with keyword Moseley)  It seems that two of Thomas Hawkins' children intermarried with the Moseley family.  Hannah Hawkins married William Moseley while her brother, John Hawkins, married Elizabeth Moseley.  (other researchers tell me that the Moseley siblings were both the children of William and Martha (Brasseur) Moseley also, as per a book "Moseley-Shelp Family" by Shiela Shelp Moseley 1995.


I found quite a bit of information about the Hawkins/Rowzee/Catlett family at the following URL:

http://gedcom.surnames.com/burgess_jim/np234.htm

This information includes research that takes Sarah Hawkins and Catlett back a generation or two in Great Britain before three of her children came to these shores.  It also mentions a book written by researchers in the early 1900's about the Catlett family.

OK....I have just a couple more thoughts before I throw up my hands as I usually do on all of these early Hawkins families.  One is that I have heard from a researcher who believes that his family descends from the Thomas of Old Rappahanock County through Thomas' grandson, Thomas, (son of John) who is said to have married Ann Covington.  This man believes that his ?-gr-grandfather was Young Hawkins---a son of Thomas and Ann Covington Hawkins.  If my memory is right, Young is found in Bedford County, Virginia.   This researcher has relatives who are male and carry the Hawkins surname.  I need to follow up on making sure research is OK and get a DNA participant to participate.

Second thought is the Butler connection.  Is it just coincidence that there is a Butler connection between two of the early Hawkins lines that I look at?  The couple from whom many of our DNA group #1 descend:  John and Elizabeth (Butler?) Hawkins who died in what was probably a epidemic in Richmond County, Virginia c. 1716 leaving orphans in the care of Richard and James Butler.  Even if Elizabeth was not actually a Butler, there is a clear close connection between this Hawkins family and the Butler family)

 John Hawkins’s will in Richmond County wills and Inventories 1709-1717 p. 235  names now wife Elizabeth Hawkins, sons William, John and Benjamin.  Asks Richard Butler and James Butler to take 6 children.  If Henry Wood, husband of Sarah Willis Wood Hudson Tuberville) will take William and teach him trade of plasterer.  Asks Richard Butler to take son John, and daughter Sarah, and daughter Elizabeth.  Asks James Butler to take son Benjamin and son James and taht they live with him until they reach 20 years.  Asks John Suttle, his freedman, to complete the crop.  will proved March 7, 1715.  he names friend Isaac Arnold executor and the will was witnessed by Isaac Arnold, Rebecca Butler and John Suttle.  Richmond County Court Minutes 1711-1715 p. 485 at a court of May 1715 John Davis has suit against Isaac Arnold, ex. of John Hawkins for 700 pounds of tobacco to be paid out of the estate of the deceased.

My notes indicate that at the time of their death, Elizabeth and John Hawkins were living in Hanover Parish, Richmond County which later became King George County after their death.

Do I know where Thomas Hawkins/Rowzee/Catlett families were living in the timer period in which I am looking at them?  Yes.

Fred Duncan has helped me explore the idea that these families were in an area around Occupatia Creek

On 20 Sep 1698 Rachel and sons John and Samuel, and son-in-law Edward Martin purchased adjoining plantations from John Hawkins, only son and heir of Thomas Hawkins of Occupacia. This information is filed in mailbox labelled Fred Duncan in my mail program.

Associated with Occupatia Creek were the lands of Richard Lawson, James Gaynes, Peter Johnson, Wm. Lowry, Geo. Morris, Wm. Moseley, Peter Rucker,  John Weir, Thos. Hawkins, Richard Coleman, Ralph Rowzee, Augustine Smith, Farmer, John Warren (Warring, now spelt Waring), John Pyne (Payne), Robert Payne, Geo. Eaton, John Gillett, John Phillips, John Watson, Phillip Rowsey, John Johnson, George Pley, Henry Berry, William Gray, Henry Tandy, Alex. Newman, Valentine Allen, Cornelius Nowell, and Hugh Owen.

( I looked in old e-mails and this was also from Fred Duncan)

The below is taken from a slide show that I use for my own information.  It shows corroborates Fred Duncan's information that these families were living near Occupatia Creek in this time period.  

Occupatia Creek

Amazing photo of the mouth of Occupatia Creek found at:

http://us.geoview.info/occupacia_creek_and_the_rappahannock_river,60267950p

I found helpful information at:  http://www.steppfamily.com/abeland.html

I found the map that was on the site that has link just above on the American Memory site Library of Congress (Jed Hotchkiss collection)  http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl

Map of part of Essex, King and Queen, and King William Counties / made under the direction of Capt. A.H. Campbell, Chief Topographical Dep't ; traced from a map now in progress ; approved April 21st 1863 by Abert [sic] H. Campbell, Cap. T.Eng. & Chief Top. Dep. D.N.Va. ; copy certified Oct. 22nd 1863 Eng. Office 2nd. Corps, Jed Hotchkiss, Capt. & top. eng.

Unfortunately this map does not take the creek out to the Rappahannock River.  However, it does give me the feeling that I am on the right track.  

Below is a map that shows the distance between the two areas that these two Hawkins lines were living....Hawkins/Rowsey/Catlett c. 1660 would have lived near where the Red marker is on the below map.....John and Elizabeth Hawkins who are ancestors of many of the Hawkins DNA project group #1 at the time of their death c. 1716 would have been just north west of this area in what is now King George County.  A time difference of 50 + years....one or two generations.....

.  Just to refresh my memory here is what King George County looks like now:

Is there a relationship between these two groups?  Lots of research to be done.



In 2017 I am reading Dorothy Wulfeck's book:  Hawkins in Virginia, North Carolina and Kentucky.  I am going to copy her paragraph here from:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89062867205;view=1up;seq=33

Arnold Family connections with Hawkins families in Virginia in 1700's and 1800's

I have spent some time this weekend looking at transcriptions of documents and some actual documents for several of the Hawkins family groups that I research in Virginia in the 1700's and 1800's.  While working on the John and Mary Long Hawkins family, I found the following map:

http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/tafq/tafq1.htm

I love this map because it shows to me how easy it would be for families to be neighbors while living in the three separate counties of Spotsylvania, Louisa, and Hanover.  These are three counties that I know much less about as I have gathered much more information about the Northern Neck, Orange, Culpeper, and Louisa Counites.

But in the back of my mind I was also thinking that I know a bit about this Arnold family!  Hmmmmm what do I know?

So here is an accounting of the occurrences of interaction between Hawkins and Arnold that I have gathered over the years:

For my own proven Hawkins family I have an event in 1813 in Orange County in which the Zion Baptist Church is formed:

About three and one half miles south of Orange in the home of Brother Hawkins, with James Arnold, Roger Mallory, Nicolas Bickers, Joseph Atkins (clerk), James Perry (deacon), Killie Hoard, Benjamin Hawkins, Hamlet Sanford, John Rogers (deacon), William Bell, William Mallory, William Hancock, William Embry, Coleman Marshall (deacon), Henry Perry, John Churchill Gordon (pastor), and Thomas Hawkins, seventeen in all.

Thomas Hawkins is my 3-hr-grandfather and Brother Hawkins is his uncle, Benjamin.  Who is this James Arnold?  I have very little information about him.

And

Isaac Arnold was a witness for John and Elizabeth Butler (?) Hawkins’s will:  Is this the same Arnold family?

1. John Hawkins. John died in Mar 1716 in Hanover Par., Richmond Co., VA.

John Hawkins married Elizabeth Butler, and they are the parents of Benjamin Hawkins who m. Sarah Willis per Newman Hall.  See Hall mss. dated 9 JAN 1991 for family group sheet.  Hall's note reads "Will of John Hoakins, Hanover parish, dated 16 JAN 1715/16 recorded 7 March 1715/16 Richmond Co., VA Wills and Inventories 1709-1717 p. 235, Abst. "now wife Elizabeth being at this time very sick and weak:  if she dies, freeman John Suttle, Jr., which now liveth with me to remain and live on the plantation whereon my family now livith: sons William, John, Benjamin and James; daughters Sarah and Elizabeth.   Richard and James Butler to care for six children but in case Henry Wood doth think fit to take son William, I desire he may have him, providing the said Henry will learn him the trade and calling of a plasterer; Richard Butler to take son John and daughters Sarah and Elizabeth; James Butler to take sons Benjamin and James until age 20.  Executor, friend Isaac Arnold, witnesses Isaac Arnold, Rebecca Butler and John Suttle. Inventory recorded 4 July 1716.  (Book and page not cited)

bef 10 Apr 1703 John married Elizabeth Butler, daughter of Peter Butler & Rebecca.

They had the following children:

          2            i.          William (-1776)

          3           ii.          John

          4          iii.          Benjamin (~1708-~1784)

          5          iv.          James

          6           v.          Sarah (-1826)

          7          vi.          Elizabeth

Is this the same Arnold family?  John and Elizabeth are proven ancestors of many of my father's DNA matches and possibly my own ancestors....just don't know yet.  OK...gotta quit for today....

John and Mary Long Hawkins line

I heard from a researcher this week who believes that she descends from Elizabeth Hawkins who is the daughter of the couple I refer to as John and Mary Long Hawkins.  I have to start this post with the fact that I am fairly sure that Mary did not have maiden name Long.  Definitely Elizabeth who married Nicholas Hawkins before 1750 when she is named in her father's will did have maiden name of Long:

Will of John Long.  Will Book B. St. George’s Parish.  d. Jan 31 1750.  proved July 7 1752.  Wit. Philip Vincent Vass, Thomas Merry.  Ex.  Wife Elizabeth Long.  Leg. wife, Elizabeth, grandson, John Hawkins, daughter Elizabeth Hawkins, granddaughter, Elizabeth Hawkins.  (page 117)

But I have never found anything to indicate that Mary who was wife of John Hawkins had parents with surname Long.  And certainly she is not the daughter of John and Elizabeth Long who both left wills and did not name a daughter Mary Hawkins.  However, there are a LOT of John Hawkins' in early Virginia and researchers have identified this man with wife Mary Long for so many years that it is just easy to continue doing so.

In chatting with my new buddy, I began pulling out information about the John and Mary Long Hawkins family.  As I was saying above, my new buddy believes that she descends from the daughter of John and Mary Long Hawkins, Elizabeth, who married George Smith aka Noblett.  

I have many, many transcribed documents from this family line as well as gathering already transcribed documents that involve family members of this group.    Too many to begin to list.  However, I spent the evening last night looking at some of them.  Every time I start on one of the Hawkins families in early Virginia, I throw up my hands at some point as I just can not seem to sort then all out.  However, I wanted to jot down a few thoughts that are on my mind after all of my reading,

First of all, I have another blog post that deals with Spotsylvania County which is where the John and Mary Long family lived.  It can be found at:

http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2014/10/john-and-mary-long-hawkins-line.html

Read that before moving to the below.

Another blog post written by me includes the following information:    This family seems to be found in Spotsylvania County in 1740 when John died.  Other researchers have told me that John migrated to these shores sometime between 1705 and 1720 and settled first in St. Anne's Parish in Essex County, Virginia.  He bought land in Spotsylvania County from Thomas and Larkin Chew 1723-1725.  He is said to have moved to Virginia with his brother, Philemon Hawkins.  This  idea is reinforced by the fact that he named a son Philemon.  Others say that both John and Philemon and their families lived first near Todd's Bridge over the Matapony River in what was then King and Queen County. ......

So the first question is I know very little about Spotsylvania County.  The URL above takes me to information about when it was formed and what it looked like in 1721.  But What did it look like in the time period in which the John and Mary Long family lived there?  And why did some of them move to Hanover County in the late 1700's?

I chose the below map from the list of images for Spotsylvania County because it represents to me the fact that one could live in any of the three counties:  Louisa, Hanover, and Spotsylvania and have a neighbor in an adjoining county.  This map can be found at:
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/tafq/tafq3.htm

Hmmmmmm.....gonna take a break and look at the Arnold family in Spotsylvania/Louisa/Orange counties....new post dated Oct 5, 2014.