I am cleaning out my bottomless pit of an inbox this morning. I have grandkids who are sleeping in and I am just doing mindless "housework" on my computer while I wait for them to get up. I hesitate to spend many hours on Hawkins from the Northern Neck until I do the research that I still need to do to break down the brick wall in Louisa, Orange and Culpeper Counties for parents and grandparents of Thomas R. Hawkins and his uncle Benjamin Hawkins. These men are my "for sure" relatives/ancestors. I am quite sure that Thomas R. Hawkins (my 3-gr-grandfather) will indeed connect to the Northern Neck as will many of us who connect through DNA results in Hawkins DNA group #1, but I have not yet done the research to make that connection.
If you were sitting beside me chatting with me as I make these notes, I would begin by telling you that I have spent many hours looking at the man that I call Thomas Hawkins of Old Rappahannock County. I have no research to connect this Thomas to any of our Hawkins DNA lines yet.
I have also spent many hours looking at John Hawkins who died and left a will before 1716 in Richmond County, Virginia (also a part of the Northern Neck). This man names children and friends and relatives and has wife Elizabeth (perhaps Elizabeth Butler). This John Hawkins has been proven by DNA to relate to my own Hawkins line.
This John and Elizabeth line has been proven to be ancestors to the line of Janet Shamiri. Janet's DNA participant is a match for my father: James Marshall Hawkins who is now deceased. Janet has a lot of good information on this line on her own blog:
http://jaceychasinghistory.blogspot.com
I have some maps and information on my blog already that I would want to review next before adding anything below. It has some maps as well. It carries the same title that this blog post has:
http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/05/hawkins-in-northern-neck.html
However, as I file some "stuff" I want to make reminders of where I put ideas.
I just filed several e-mails from Fred Duncan in the mail folder labelled Northern Neck. These include the wonderful maps that Fred sends me from time to time. His Peter Duncan seems to have been a neighbor and a buddy of Thomas Hawkins of Old Rappahannock County and Thomas's father-in-law, Thomas/Jacob? Lucas. John Catlett seems to also live in the neighborhood and is also a son-in-law to Thomas Lucas.
There is an excellent map in my Northern Neck mail folder from Fred Duncan that has date January 2013.
I want to add one more idea that is nagging in the back of my mind. It is a post that I made to
http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2013/01/hawkinsrowzeecatlett-connections.html
There is no doubt that I should never start looking at the Hawkins surname in the Northern Neck without reviewing the information that I posted on this blog in January 2013 that I can access with above link.
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Sunday, October 27, 2013
Monday, May 28, 2012
Hawkins in the Northern Neck
While working on an article for Phil Hawkins' Hawkins DNA Newsletter for the month of May, I found myself talking about the ancestry of my dad's closest DNA match, Gene Hawkins. Here is what I sent to Phil for his newsletter:
I found myself wanting to explain a bit about the Northern Neck and Hawkins connections to that area and decided to do that in a new Blog article. In its most common definition today the Northern Neck consists of the four counties between the Rappahannock and Potomac River, which are Northumberland, Lancaster, Richmond and Westmoreland Counties.
However, for genealogical purposes, we might not want to be so narrow in our looking at the area. So I am going to include Essex County in my information on this Blog which is just south of the Rappahanock River. In these very early years Rivers were used for transportation and a neighbor who lived just across the river might be closer in proximity than someone who lived in a place that would have had to be reached via land roads.
You can see where Gene's possible ancestor, John Hawkins, is said to have died in Richmond County.
Other early Hawkins men that I have looked at are Thomas Hawkins who I call Thomas of Old Rappahanock County. Since my earliest proven Hawkins ancestor is Thomas R. Hawkins, you can guess why I might like to look at early men named Thomas Hawkins. This Thomas Hawkins died in Rappahanock County, Virginia in 1677.
The County of Rappahanock disappeared in 1692. The part of the County that was north of the Rappahanock River became Richmond County. The part that was south of the river became Essex County.
There is also a well documented Hawkins family that I call the John and Mary Long family. It is doubtful that Mary actually had Long as a maiden name. However, Hawkins researchers called John's wife Mary Long for so many years that everyone immediately recognizes the family by this title. This family seems to be found in Spotsylvania County in 1740 when John died. Other researchers have told me that John migrated to these shores sometime between 1705 and 1720 and settled first in St. Anne's Parish in Essex County, Virginia. He bought land in Spotsylvania County from Thomas and Larkin Chew 1723-1725. He is said to have moved to Virginia with his brother, Philemon Hawkins. This is idea is reinforced by the fact that he named a son Philemon. Others say that both John and Philemon and their families lived first near Todd's Bridge over the Matapony River in what was then King and Queen County. If you start at Tappahannock on the Rappahanock River in Essex County on the map below and travel in your mind south on Rt 340 to the Mataponi River, it crosses about the site of Todd's Bridge according to the research that I have done thus far. If you have trouble seeing the below map, try single clicking on it to get a better view.
The month of May held a very special event for me! I visited Gene Hawkins in Warren County, Ohio. Gene is my dad's closest DNA match. The celebration took place over dinner at the Golden Lamb with Gene's wife and several of his family and friends. It was a VERY special evening! I was in Cincinnati for the National Genealogical Society's Annual Conference only a 35 minute from Warren County. Gene and I do not yet know who our common Hawkins ancestor will prove to be. Gene connects to James and Jane Bourne Hawkins who were married in Culpeper, Virginia probably 12 April, 1781. This couple moved to Kentucky after the Revolutionary War where James Hawkins died 2 Mar 1819 in Anderson County, Kentucky.
James was the son of Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins. Benjamin Hawkins died c.1782 in Culpeper County, Va. My Hawkins line has earliest ancestor, Thomas R. Hawkins who was born c. 1797 in the same general area of Virginia as Gene's early ancestors. Thomas R. Hawkins lived most of his life in Orange County, Virginia which adjoins Culpeper. He married Matilda Pinkard in Culpeper County in 1823.
I believe that it is almost a certainty that Gene and I will find common ancestors in the Northern Neck of Virginia one, two, or three generations before what we know now. Perhaps our connection will be as early as the 17th Century. Other researchers have told me that Benjamin Hawkins who married Sarah Willis had father, John Hawkins who died bef 1716 in Richmond County, Virginia (a part of the Northern Neck of Virginia). The below information may or may not relate to Hawkins DNA group #1. I am mostly brainstorming to see if anyone in DNA group #1 or any other Hawkins DNA group recognizes anyone or anything that might be a clue for all of us.
However, for genealogical purposes, we might not want to be so narrow in our looking at the area. So I am going to include Essex County in my information on this Blog which is just south of the Rappahanock River. In these very early years Rivers were used for transportation and a neighbor who lived just across the river might be closer in proximity than someone who lived in a place that would have had to be reached via land roads.
You can see where Gene's possible ancestor, John Hawkins, is said to have died in Richmond County.
Other early Hawkins men that I have looked at are Thomas Hawkins who I call Thomas of Old Rappahanock County. Since my earliest proven Hawkins ancestor is Thomas R. Hawkins, you can guess why I might like to look at early men named Thomas Hawkins. This Thomas Hawkins died in Rappahanock County, Virginia in 1677.
The County of Rappahanock disappeared in 1692. The part of the County that was north of the Rappahanock River became Richmond County. The part that was south of the river became Essex County.
There is also a well documented Hawkins family that I call the John and Mary Long family. It is doubtful that Mary actually had Long as a maiden name. However, Hawkins researchers called John's wife Mary Long for so many years that everyone immediately recognizes the family by this title. This family seems to be found in Spotsylvania County in 1740 when John died. Other researchers have told me that John migrated to these shores sometime between 1705 and 1720 and settled first in St. Anne's Parish in Essex County, Virginia. He bought land in Spotsylvania County from Thomas and Larkin Chew 1723-1725. He is said to have moved to Virginia with his brother, Philemon Hawkins. This is idea is reinforced by the fact that he named a son Philemon. Others say that both John and Philemon and their families lived first near Todd's Bridge over the Matapony River in what was then King and Queen County. If you start at Tappahannock on the Rappahanock River in Essex County on the map below and travel in your mind south on Rt 340 to the Mataponi River, it crosses about the site of Todd's Bridge according to the research that I have done thus far. If you have trouble seeing the below map, try single clicking on it to get a better view.
Wednesday, July 2, 2014
Northern Neck Proprietary vs Northern Neck
I am off my feet for a few days because of the removal of a couple of squamous cell cancers from my lower legs. That means extra time for my computer because there is no tennis nor golf nor errands and etc. So I am cleaning out my inbox randomly. One of the e-mails that I happened on is from back in 2010 from Craig Kilby on the Northern Neck Mail list dated June 27, 2010 with subject line: Northern Neck Proprietary vs. Colonial Land Office. I am going to erase the e-mail from my inbox and make a blog post with some of his ideas and a bit of research on-line and in some of the books in my library.
Friday, July 11, 2014
Welsh Quaker naming patterns
Vivian Markley sent me a link to her newest post:
http://quakerig.blogspot.com/2014/07/update-7112014.html
The post had such a great idea in it that I decided to copy the idea here in my own Blog. Most of us who have been doing research for any amount of time are aware of the naming practices of the Scots who use Mc and the Welsh who use ap as in Thomas ap Thomas or William ap Thomas.....if you aren't familiar read about it on the above blog post.
But the new (to me) idea that Vivian suggests is that some of the random names that we find among our FF matches may have come from Welsh ancestors. So it is possible that someone with last name Thomas may match someone with last name Evans.....and that the ancestor that they share may have been Welsh. It is just a matter of what surname they took on these shores where the "ap" naming pattern was not used.
WOW! This would be a huge project to take on. But it would be similar to my idea of trying to find some sort of pattern for my matches who had ancestors from Nantucket....or for my matches who had ancestors from the Northern Neck of Virginia. So
I recently sent the following to my Northern Neck Mail list (Virginia):
I just had a surprising match on my Family Finder. A man who joined via the Moses surname project that I am co-administrator for came back as a match for me instead of one of the Moses participants. I am not Moses by blood.....just married to a Moses male. That made me start thinking about who I am likely to match in general. And I thought about one of the blog posts that I wrote a couple of years ago:
http://hawkinsdna.blogspot.com/search?q=autosomal
My interpretation of a talk that I had heard at the Ohio genealogical society's annual event given by Diahan Southard:
Her information included the suggestion that a match might be because you share many small segments of DNA. That would indicate a geographic connection. With another match you might share large segments of DNA which would indicate that this person is more likely to be related to you with a common ancestor in the much closer time frame.
I started thinking about the various geographical locations that might show up for my own DNA results. The one that jumps to my mind most quickly is my Nantucket ancestors.....they were so intermarried by the time just before the Revolutionary War that to connect to one family line almost connects one to all of the lines. But the Northern Neck jumps to my mind secondly. These people were almost certainly almost that intermarried by the time 1800 came around.....at least the lines that had moved to the area in the 1600's. They just are not as well documented as my Nantucket ancestors.
So I started thinking....hmmmmm....are there a series of small segments that would suggest a connection to the Nothern Neck?
So the question I am thinking on Vivian's information is: are there a series of small segments that would suggest a connection to the Welsh?
I would love to hear from anyone who has any answers for me on this!
http://quakerig.blogspot.com/2014/07/update-7112014.html
The post had such a great idea in it that I decided to copy the idea here in my own Blog. Most of us who have been doing research for any amount of time are aware of the naming practices of the Scots who use Mc and the Welsh who use ap as in Thomas ap Thomas or William ap Thomas.....if you aren't familiar read about it on the above blog post.
But the new (to me) idea that Vivian suggests is that some of the random names that we find among our FF matches may have come from Welsh ancestors. So it is possible that someone with last name Thomas may match someone with last name Evans.....and that the ancestor that they share may have been Welsh. It is just a matter of what surname they took on these shores where the "ap" naming pattern was not used.
WOW! This would be a huge project to take on. But it would be similar to my idea of trying to find some sort of pattern for my matches who had ancestors from Nantucket....or for my matches who had ancestors from the Northern Neck of Virginia. So
I recently sent the following to my Northern Neck Mail list (Virginia):
I just had a surprising match on my Family Finder. A man who joined via the Moses surname project that I am co-administrator for came back as a match for me instead of one of the Moses participants. I am not Moses by blood.....just married to a Moses male. That made me start thinking about who I am likely to match in general. And I thought about one of the blog posts that I wrote a couple of years ago:
http://hawkinsdna.blogspot.com/search?q=autosomal
My interpretation of a talk that I had heard at the Ohio genealogical society's annual event given by Diahan Southard:
Her information included the suggestion that a match might be because you share many small segments of DNA. That would indicate a geographic connection. With another match you might share large segments of DNA which would indicate that this person is more likely to be related to you with a common ancestor in the much closer time frame.
I started thinking about the various geographical locations that might show up for my own DNA results. The one that jumps to my mind most quickly is my Nantucket ancestors.....they were so intermarried by the time just before the Revolutionary War that to connect to one family line almost connects one to all of the lines. But the Northern Neck jumps to my mind secondly. These people were almost certainly almost that intermarried by the time 1800 came around.....at least the lines that had moved to the area in the 1600's. They just are not as well documented as my Nantucket ancestors.
So I started thinking....hmmmmm....are there a series of small segments that would suggest a connection to the Nothern Neck?
So the question I am thinking on Vivian's information is: are there a series of small segments that would suggest a connection to the Welsh?
I would love to hear from anyone who has any answers for me on this!
Saturday, January 18, 2020
Northern Neck of Virginia
I started reading the book The Willis Family of the Northern Neck in Virginia 1669-1737. Partly I am reading this because my dna connects to participants who connect to every child of Benjamin Hawkins and his wife, Sarah Willis. Benjamin is one of the orphans of John and Elizabeth Hawkins who both die in some sort of an epidemic c. 1715/16.
The book is worth the purchase price just for the information about the area in which families were living around what is now Richmond County in the Northern Neck of Virginia in the time period in which I have interest. I have not read the entire book. The author spent years doing research. There is too much to read in a few sittings.
I have to add to the above that I have never proved that Sarah had maiden name Willis. I have not found anyone yet who does have that proof. Sarah is the daughter of the oft married Sarah who married and had children with William Willis, Henry Wood, and Rush Hudson....then after the death of her third husband married a man with last name Turberville (I am to lazy to look him up right now to be sure of his first name) and died in Orange County, Virginia with last name Turberville. There were no children with this last husband.
Benjamin Hawkins was a witness or some such thing on his wife's mother's will....again I am not double checking ...in a hurry to just put this paragraph in place quickly. This author admits that she does not have proof to which of the oft married Sarah's husbands her daughter Sarah descends.
I just needed to put these paragraphs SOMEPLACE tonight. They are found on page 97 of this book. I will put notes from me in [ ] .
Isaac Arnold's name is found on many of the documents for William Willis and his wife Sarah from the will of John Willis Sr. to Turberville's administration of Rush Hudson's estate, but no direct relationship was found. It is known that Isaac and his wife Margaret were given 40 acres by her father Thomas Goff in 1707/08 (see Chapter IV)/ This tract was undoubtedly part of either the 403 acres which Goff and Kendall purchased jointly with John Willis Sr. in 1687/88 or Goff's 1696 grant of 105 acres which adjoined John Willis Sr.
[ notes from me on that paragraph: Isaac Arnold is the man that John Hawkins names as executor of his deathbed will c.1715/16. There is no doubt in my mind that these men are neighbors and friends.
http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/11/will-of-john-hawkins-of-richmond-county.html]
In November 1758 William Willis (son of William and [the oft married Sarah]) placed an attachment on the estate of an Isaac Arnold in Orange County, and James Arnold paid the debt to Willis in 1759 [footnote says Orange County orders] While Issac Arnold Sr. of King George County wrote his will in September 1757 and it was proved the following May, Isaac did not have a known son named James, and it seems doubtful that this was the man whose estate was attached by William Willis. Review of the records for the Arnold family continues because of their proximity to the Willises in both Richmond/King George and Orange Counties.
The Butler connection to the Willis family is elusive, but a Christopher Butler witnessed John Willis Sr's deed to his son William in 1701, and earlier references to the Butler family can be found in other parts of this manuscript. If or how Christopher was related to Richard Butler or Caleb Butler is unknown. What is clear from the records is that Richard Butler and wife Susanna were neighbors to the Woods and Hudsons, and that Henry Wood was related to the Butlers, and that Richard acted as guardian to both William Wood and Benjamin Hawkins who migrated to Orange County with the extended Willis family.
Sunday, February 24, 2013
Benjamin Carter Hawkins and wife Susan Lee
On Saturday, Feb 24th, Linda Keefer and I spent several hours looking at her Hawkins family. I am editing this post in 2021 as at the time I originally wrote this we thought that Linda's line could connect to my line. DNA has shown since then that Linda's family is connected to family group #5 in the Hawkins yDNA project.
Linda's earliest proven ancestor is Benjamin Carter Hawkins. Benjamin's wife was Susan Lee. Susan's mother was Sarah Terrell.
Linda shared an article with me written by Judy Kellar Fox, CG that was published in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly 99 (June 2011): 85-96 about Documents and DNA Identify a Little-Known Lee Family in Virginia. I will copy one paragraph from the article that is found on page 86:
"Charles Lee Bought land in Orange County on 24 September 1767. "Being part of a Tract of Land the said Joseph Boston bought of the Estate of John Spotswood, Dec'd which....Contains Sixty acres," The parcel was half a 120-acre lease to Robert Boston and his son Robert, carved out of Alexander Spotswood's tract on 27 August 1746. (I might want to look at this deed as Ms Fox says that there is a plat of the parcel in the deed: Orange County Deed Book 10:397-401, Spotswood to Boston FHL microfilm 33,014) On 13 April 1767 executors of Spotswood's son John had sold the parcel to Joseph Boston, who four months later resold it to Charles Lee. Since Joseph Boston had held the parcel for such a short time, it likely was known as Robert Boston's land. Lee's deed names neighbors Sleet, John Boston, and Willis."
There is proof later in the article that Charles Lee of Orange County, Virginia is the same man as Charles Lee of Richmond County, Virginia. And there is proof that Absalom Wood is a relative of this Lee family by marriage....his wife was Kathrine Lee born in Richmond County.
I will quote one more paragraph from Ms. Fox's article. I recommend anyone interested in these families read the article for oneself. She is describing the migration of many families from Richmond County to the Rapidan River that is the boundary between Culpeper and Orange Counties. Richmond county is in the Northern Neck of Virginia which would be the land between the Potomac River and the Rappahannock River on the map below. Richmond County was on the Rappahannock east of the marker for Route #3.
"Local History sheds some light on the migration of Charles Lee and other Richmond Country natives to Orange County. Destined for unsettled frontier land, they followed the 1716 Spotswood expedition route, up the Rappahannock Valley and along the Rapidan River. ....In 1742 Charles Lee and thirty neighbors lived on Chestnut Mountain, a low ridge within the Spotsylvania tract south of the Rapidan River. They sought a court order to repopen a road so they could roll hogsheads of tobacco to Fredericksburt. William Croucher, John Branham, and several Thorntons----all from Richmond County----signed the petition."
[Note: Chestnut Mountain and Clark Mountain are the same mountain....just different names in different time periods]
This map taken from: The History and People of Clark Mountain Orange County, Virginia by Patricia J. Hurst. I have filed an e-mail that shows a map by Joyner in conjunction with the map shown here that helps put some of the neighbors in relationships. The e-mail is in my mail program and also inside the book that I own by Patricia Hurst.
I have other posts on this blog about these families and these areas. Use Northern Neck and Chestnut Mountain in the search window to get to some of the other posts.
Linda's earliest proven ancestor is Benjamin Carter Hawkins. Benjamin's wife was Susan Lee. Susan's mother was Sarah Terrell.
Linda shared an article with me written by Judy Kellar Fox, CG that was published in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly 99 (June 2011): 85-96 about Documents and DNA Identify a Little-Known Lee Family in Virginia. I will copy one paragraph from the article that is found on page 86:
"Charles Lee Bought land in Orange County on 24 September 1767. "Being part of a Tract of Land the said Joseph Boston bought of the Estate of John Spotswood, Dec'd which....Contains Sixty acres," The parcel was half a 120-acre lease to Robert Boston and his son Robert, carved out of Alexander Spotswood's tract on 27 August 1746. (I might want to look at this deed as Ms Fox says that there is a plat of the parcel in the deed: Orange County Deed Book 10:397-401, Spotswood to Boston FHL microfilm 33,014) On 13 April 1767 executors of Spotswood's son John had sold the parcel to Joseph Boston, who four months later resold it to Charles Lee. Since Joseph Boston had held the parcel for such a short time, it likely was known as Robert Boston's land. Lee's deed names neighbors Sleet, John Boston, and Willis."
There is proof later in the article that Charles Lee of Orange County, Virginia is the same man as Charles Lee of Richmond County, Virginia. And there is proof that Absalom Wood is a relative of this Lee family by marriage....his wife was Kathrine Lee born in Richmond County.
I will quote one more paragraph from Ms. Fox's article. I recommend anyone interested in these families read the article for oneself. She is describing the migration of many families from Richmond County to the Rapidan River that is the boundary between Culpeper and Orange Counties. Richmond county is in the Northern Neck of Virginia which would be the land between the Potomac River and the Rappahannock River on the map below. Richmond County was on the Rappahannock east of the marker for Route #3.
"Local History sheds some light on the migration of Charles Lee and other Richmond Country natives to Orange County. Destined for unsettled frontier land, they followed the 1716 Spotswood expedition route, up the Rappahannock Valley and along the Rapidan River. ....In 1742 Charles Lee and thirty neighbors lived on Chestnut Mountain, a low ridge within the Spotsylvania tract south of the Rapidan River. They sought a court order to repopen a road so they could roll hogsheads of tobacco to Fredericksburt. William Croucher, John Branham, and several Thorntons----all from Richmond County----signed the petition."
[Note: Chestnut Mountain and Clark Mountain are the same mountain....just different names in different time periods]
I have other posts on this blog about these families and these areas. Use Northern Neck and Chestnut Mountain in the search window to get to some of the other posts.
Thursday, March 13, 2014
Webb in the area near Warren County, Kentucky
This post is more of a list of things that I have found that may or may not have bearing on my puzzle. There is no real organization....more like bits and pieces of the puzzle...with the hope that as I gather more information, I can sort this into things that are indeed part of my solution and clues that are not relevant. I hope to add clues from other people as I go.
I attended the Kentucky Historical and Genealogical Society's second Saturday event in March 2014 and wanted to practice what I had learned in Josh Taylor's talk on Information Overload; Managing Online Searches and their Results (https://rootstech.org/about/videos/). So I formulated a google search: William AND Webb AND (Warren County AND Kentucky) to see if I could add to the information that I already had found about a migration from Montgomery County, Virginia into Warren and on into Illinois which was a part of a theory that I was trying to prove or disprove.
One of the first hits gave me a transcription of the 1810 Warren County Tax List that can be found at:
http://www.burgoo.com/3333333333073156.html
The Webb men found in this list are: Lazarus, Eli, Henry, Martin, John, and William.
Because I believe my ancestor to have been William Webb, I also noted that there are also William Webbs in Logan County in 1810. And there is a William Webb in Barren County in 1810 as well.
So the question is who are these men.
Information from Winnie Whitaker (winniewhitaker@yahoo.com) helped shed some light on these names:
My Webb family did settle Warren County. It was along the Green and Nolin rivers which later became Hart, Grayson and Edmonson Counties. There was one other family of Webbs who passed thru moving north ca 1800, Lazarus and Moses. They were an unrelated line. Mine was the Martin Webb family. He brought his children, their familes, some nephews and nieces and their families as well. Martin was the son of Merry Webb of Virginia. He married Judith Bolling.
In 2017 I am looking in Henry County while doing a bit of Morrison research. I have found Merry Sr., Merry Jr. and James Webb (James Webb is named as a son of Merry Webb on this list) on a Titheable List Taken By Robert Chandler for 1767 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. I am reading this list via JSTOR:
Tithables of Pittsylvania County, 1767 (Continued)
Source: The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 23, No. 4 (Oct., 1915), pp. 371-380
Published by: Virginia Historical Society
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/4243469
Source: The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 23, No. 4 (Oct., 1915), pp. 371-380
Published by: Virginia Historical Society
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/4243469
It is a PDF made from the above source.
Winnie added the following:
My line came to Kentucky in 1796. Martin Webb, son of Merry Webb, was born ca 1740 and moved his family from Halifax /Henry County Va. to Burke Co, NC by 1772. From there he moved down to the Greasy Cove/Nolichucky River area of Tn. Back to Buncombe NC /Wilkes County area in 1780's. By 1790 he was in the Greenville S.C area on the Saluda River with other members of his family. He and his extended family were in Logan, later Warren Co Ky by 1796 on the Green River. Others of the family included Harrison, Houchen, Pace, Jones, Jett, Hazelip and Morris.The area is now Edmonson County Ky and most of his original land belongs to the Mammoth Cave National Forest.
For information about the geography of this area, go to my blog post:
http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2013/11/migration-from-montgomery-county.html
Another hit gives information about a Webb family that is said to have originated in Northumberland County, Virginia who have a Lazarus and an Eli and seem to have lived in Warren County before they moved to Franklin County, Illinois:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Delores-A-Hill-OR/BOOK-0001/0004-0014.html
This would NOT have been Winnie's Webb family. It is instead the Webb family belonging to Charlene Reeds-Ebling (TEbel2888@aol.com) and Dian Mahaney (dianmah@sbcglobal.net) . I am acquainted with both of these researchers through the Northern Neck Mail list. Here is information that I have saved from each of them:
I am descended from two of Thomas' grandsons, who relocated to Charlotte Co. VA. then Warren Co. KY, and about 1815-18 settled in Franklin Co. IL. (Dian indicated that Lazarus was in Warren County as early as 1797 and that Lazarus and Eli had two younger brothers; William b. 17Dec 1776 and Charles)
Thomas and his wife Elizabeth had four sons and two daughters; William, John, Lazarus, Thomas, Judith and Winefred.These are all pretty basic "Webb" family names, except Lazarus. We looked to see if Elizabeth was a TAYLOR, but it appears now that she isn't. I am descended through his son Lazarus.
Our best clue so far has been the DNA suggesting Thomas was related to Giles Webb. His descendants (I believe) are in Richmond and Essex Cos.
Dian
and also from Dian:
My WEBB ancestors born in Northumberland Co. moved from NLD. to Charlotte Co. VA then to Warren Co. KY, then to Franklin Co. IL. My maternal great granparents were, I believe, third cousins. Charles H. Phillips was a descendant of Lazarus Webb and Nancy Creek. He married Jo Webb, she was a descendant of Eli Webb and Margaret Sandusky.
Lazarus and Eli were brothers born in Northumberland Co. DNA shows that their paternal grandfather Thomas Webb (ca. 1720-1783) and maternal grandfather John Webb (ca. 1720-1771) were related.
and from Charlene:
I am descended from two of Thomas' grandsons, who relocated to Charlotte
Co. VA. then Warren Co. KY, and about 1815-18 settled in Franklin Co. IL. ...
Charlene and Dian cleared up confusion that I had found on the internet about Nancy Creek. She is NOT my 4-gr-grandmother since she married a Lazarus Webb rather than a William Webb. I was very happy to get that clarified.
Census information
In the next part of this blog post I a going to look at the various William Webbs found in tax lists and in censuses in this part of KY.
The William Webb found in Barren County, Ky in 1810 is perhaps the right age for my 4-gr-grandfather. My William Webb is 60-70 in the census of 1830 in Clay County, Illinois. I know this to be my 4-gr-grandfather. That makes his birthday somewhere between 1760 and 1770. The William Webb in Barren County in 1810 is 45 or over.
Thursday, March 5, 2015
Quakers move from Philly to Northern Virginia c. 1730
When one reads about the movement of the Quaker families out of the Philadelphia area, the movement that I first became aware of was from Philly area to Northern Virginia. Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan seem to have headed up this migration. ("He" is Alexander Ross)
- He and Morgan Bryan petitioned the Council of the Colony of Virginia on 28 October 1730 that there were 100 families desirous of settling in Virginia and requested 100,000 acres on the west and north side of "Opeckon" to the North Mountain and along the River Cohongarooton (Potomac River). With the advice of the Council, the Governor gave permission to Ross and Bryan to take up the 100,000 acres; patents would be granted, providing that the 100 families were present and dwelling upon the land within two years.
Ross probably moved to Virginia soon after he received notification of the Council's action. He received his patent from the Colony on 12 November 1735 for 2,373 acres. The tract is located west of Clearbrook, Virginia on Braddocks Road, Frederick County Highway 672. Interstate Highway 81 crosses the east part of the tract, Frederick County Highway 671 runs along the north side and County Highway 661 runs along the east.
from:
http://sherrysharp.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I47693&tree=Roots
Joseph has told me that:
The Mordecai we know we are related to in Pennsylvania is the son of John and Jane. He is Steve's ancestor, who left the area about 1729, is missing for about 15 years, and then turned up in Frederick County, VA, then Granville, NC, then SC. There is no evidence that James and Rose had more than the two children we know about---John and Mary.
The date that Mordecai "goes Missing" is just about perfect for having been a part of Alexander Ross' early group to move from the Philly area to Northern Virginia. I did a bit of thinking about this and remembered that Old Frederick county was not carved out of Orange until 1738. So it is possible that Mordecai might be found among the Orange County, Virginia records in the period between 1730 and 1738. I am doing this from memory...but I believe that early Hopewell MM records burned in a fire in someone's home. I will work on some of this when I get home.
Here is what I found on-line (Thanks to Bruce Locken) about the original 70 families that accompanied Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan from Philly area to Northern Virginia:
In the State Land Office at Richmond are to be found recorded in Book 16, pages 315-415, inclusive, the patents issued to the settlers who came to the Shenandoah Valley under authority of the Orders in Council made to Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan. All bear date of November 12, 1735, and recite that the grantee is one of the seventy families brought in by them, and excepting location and acreage, are alike in wording and conditions, and are signed by William Gooch, Lieutenant-Governor of the Colony at that time. . . .
These patents were issued under the seal of the colony and were grants from the Crown, free of any obligation of feudal services to the Fairfax family, who claimed the land as lords proprietors of the Northern Neck of Virginia. The sixth Lord Fairfax, who later established his home at Greenway Court near Winchester, instituted many suits against early settlers in the Shenandoah Valley, but it does not appear that any Friend who claimed under Ross and Bryan was ever ejected from his land.
Although it is specifically stated that seventy families have been "by them brought in to our said Colony and settled upon the Lands in the said Order mentioned," only thirty-six patents issued to thirty-four grantees have been found. The names of these grantees are here given, together with sundry information gathered from the minutes of various Friends' meetings, from the records of the counties of Orange and Frederick in Virginia, and Chester County, Pennsylvania. . . .
Frederick County, Virginia, Hopewell Friends History [database online], Orem, UT: Ancestry.com, 1997:
Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Will of John Hawkins of Richmond County
I was working on my Northern Neck slide show last night when I found a slide about the will of John Hawkins. Because my NN mail list has been particularly active, some of the names jumped out at me that had been less meaningful in the past. I wanted to capture my thoughts about this will. I don't think that I have ever seen the original of the will. I am working from a transcription that was not made by me.
John Hawkins will in Richmond County Wills and Inventories 1709-1717 p 235 names now wife, Elizabeth Hawkins, sons, William, John, and Benjamin. Asks Richard Butler and James Butler to take 6 children. If Henry Wood Will take William and teach him trade of plasterer. Asks Richard Butler to take son John, daughter Sarah, and daughter Elizabeth. Asks James Butler to take son Benjamin and son James and that they live with him until they reach 20 years. Asks John Suttle, his freedman, to complete crop. Will proved 7 March 1715. He names friend Isaac Arnold executor and the will was witnessed by Isaac Arnold, Rebecca Butler, and John Suttle. Richmond County Court Minutes 1711-1715 p. 485 at a court of May 1715 John Davis has suit against Isaac Arnold ex of John Hawkins for 700 pounds of tobacco to be paid out of the estate of the deceased.
So one big question here is if Elizabeth's maiden name was Butler. Certainly it would seem that that would be most likely. No one in the Hawkins family is asked to take children. Many Butler family members are asked to take children. Richard and James Butler are likely to have been either brothers to Elizabeth or a brother and a father.
A google search found the following information on Mike Marshall's website:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I28343
Richard Butler:
Birth: 1666 in Westmoreland County, Virginia
Death: 7 MAR 1734/35 in Hanover Parish, King George County, Virginia - Probate
Continuing to read Mike's website, one is struck by how interelated this Richard Butler is with the Hawkins family. I HAVE the right man!
WILL OF RICHARD BUTLER
In the Name of God Amen. I Richard Butler of Brunswick Parish in the County of King George being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory do make and ordain this my last Will & Test ament in manner and form following.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my loving son William Butler all the estate which I was possessed of at the time of my marriage with my now wife Mary, all my debts being first paid out of the sd part by my Executor hereafter named.
Item: I give and bequeath unto Elizabeth Newport, wife of Peter Newport, thirty five acres of land lying in King George County joyning upon William Settles to her and her heirs forever.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my loving wife Mary Butler all he rest and residue of my estate unto whome I give the tuition and keeping of my son William Butler until he arive to age of twenty one years. I do hereby ordain and appoint Benjamin Hawkins whole and sole Executor of this my last Will & Testament utterly revoking all wills before at any time made, do acknowledge this my last Will & Testament. As Witness my hand and seale this twenty sixth day of January One thousand Seven hundred Twenty four five [1724/5] (sic).
Ejus *******
Richard [R] Butler *Seale* Signum *******
Signed Sealed & Acknowledged in the presence of
John Gilbert James Hackley James Hawkins
At a Court held for King George County the 7th day of March Anno Dom: 1734 [1734/5].
The last Will & Testament of Richard Butler, Dece., was presented into Court by Benjamin Hawkins his Executor who made oath thereto and the same was proved by the oath of John Gilbert, James Hackley and James Hawkins and admitted to Record.
Copia Vera Test T: Turner Cl:Cur:
Then scrolling down on Mike's page I find another person's interpretation of this will:
On the website it says: Contributed by: James Hughes Janet Shamiri has indicated that the below is taken from her information. To see more information by Janet, go to:
http://jaceychasinghistory.blogspot.com/search?q=John+Hawkins
URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0055/g0000 022.html
URL title: My Southern Family
There is strong circumstantial evidence. John b. ca 1675 and Elizabeth Hawkins lived in Richmond County, Va and they both died in 1715 in an epidemic. John left a will and named 4 sons and 2 daughters. His oldest son Wm is apprenticed to Henry Wood; his younger children Benjamin, John, James, sarah and Elizabeth are given to James and Richard Butler -- from this we assume that Elizabeth, John's wife is a Butler. Rebecca Butler witnesses the will, widow Peter Butler d. ca1698. James Butler dies shortly thereafter and the children are raised by Richard Butler. We first find Wm, oldest son, in court records in 1718 in Richmond County, indicating he must be 21 and extrapolating back we give him birth ca 1697 and in 1715/6 when his father died he would have been 18. We also think John had a first wife as he refers to Elizabeth as "now wife" in the will. When Benjamin first shows up in court records it is 1729, extrapolate back and you have b. ca 1708. then John shows about 1727, thus b. ca 1706 and James shows up around 1731, thus b. ca 1710. In several court procedures John Willis stands up for the orphans - securing them in court and so forth. John's son Wm is married to Sarah Hawksford(?). Wm died shortly thereafter and his widow marries Henry Wood - the gentleman Wm is apprenticed to. Hawksfords are also neighbors as are both Willises - father and son. When Benjamin and brothers show up later in Orange Co. -- Benj is married to Sarah Willis, living near by his mother-in-law, brother-in-law and his brothers. Interesting thing also is that Wm that everybody likes to attach Benjamin to as his father is I suspect his big brother Wm b. 1697 -- who has sons Benjamin, John, and James. I also think they may have attached Wm's other brother James onto him as a son possibly- less sure on this one. Wm lives also lives near Benjamin in Chestnut Mt area in Orange Co.
I am rereading this entire blog post in 2019. I am struck by the possibility that orphan William Hawkins may have been a son from the first wife. Could the first wife have been related to Henry Wood? While the other orphans are children of Elizabeth who is likely related to the Butler men?
Chestnut Mt is called Clark Mountain in the below:
There is excellent information about this family on Janet Shahmiri's blog:
http://jaceychasinghistory.blogspot.com/search?q=John+Hawkins
Janet has narrowed land on which John Hawkins lived to a place near to the Carter land....at least that is what I am understanding with quick looking this morning. I will try to read this more closely and see just exactly what that corresponds with in my own research.
I will add information from Paticia J. Hurst's book tomorrow to this space. I changed my mind this morning. I will start a new blog dated Nov 28 with information on this Hawkins line in Orange and Culpeper Counties. That way a reader can continue with Northern Neck information on this blog entry and switch to a separate entry for the different location.
In 1692, Rappahannock County disapeared and the part of the county that was north of the Rappahannock River became Richmond County. The part that was south of the river became Essex County. So it is possible that some of these people would be found in Old Rappahannock County 20 years before.
So one big question here is if Elizabeth's maiden name was Butler. Certainly it would seem that that would be most likely. No one in the Hawkins family is asked to take children. Many Butler family members are asked to take children. Richard and James Butler are likely to have been either brothers to Elizabeth or a brother and a father.
A google search found the following information on Mike Marshall's website:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I28343
Richard Butler:
Continuing to read Mike's website, one is struck by how interelated this Richard Butler is with the Hawkins family. I HAVE the right man!
WILL OF RICHARD BUTLER
In the Name of God Amen. I Richard Butler of Brunswick Parish in the County of King George being sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory do make and ordain this my last Will & Test ament in manner and form following.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my loving son William Butler all the estate which I was possessed of at the time of my marriage with my now wife Mary, all my debts being first paid out of the sd part by my Executor hereafter named.
Item: I give and bequeath unto Elizabeth Newport, wife of Peter Newport, thirty five acres of land lying in King George County joyning upon William Settles to her and her heirs forever.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my loving wife Mary Butler all he rest and residue of my estate unto whome I give the tuition and keeping of my son William Butler until he arive to age of twenty one years. I do hereby ordain and appoint Benjamin Hawkins whole and sole Executor of this my last Will & Testament utterly revoking all wills before at any time made, do acknowledge this my last Will & Testament. As Witness my hand and seale this twenty sixth day of January One thousand Seven hundred Twenty four five [1724/5] (sic).
Ejus *******
Richard [R] Butler *Seale* Signum *******
Signed Sealed & Acknowledged in the presence of
John Gilbert James Hackley James Hawkins
At a Court held for King George County the 7th day of March Anno Dom: 1734 [1734/5].
The last Will & Testament of Richard Butler, Dece., was presented into Court by Benjamin Hawkins his Executor who made oath thereto and the same was proved by the oath of John Gilbert, James Hackley and James Hawkins and admitted to Record.
Copia Vera Test T: Turner Cl:Cur:
Then scrolling down on Mike's page I find another person's interpretation of this will:
On the website it says: Contributed by: James Hughes Janet Shamiri has indicated that the below is taken from her information. To see more information by Janet, go to:
http://jaceychasinghistory.blogspot.com/search?q=John+Hawkins
URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0055/g0000 022.html
URL title: My Southern Family
There is strong circumstantial evidence. John b. ca 1675 and Elizabeth Hawkins lived in Richmond County, Va and they both died in 1715 in an epidemic. John left a will and named 4 sons and 2 daughters. His oldest son Wm is apprenticed to Henry Wood; his younger children Benjamin, John, James, sarah and Elizabeth are given to James and Richard Butler -- from this we assume that Elizabeth, John's wife is a Butler. Rebecca Butler witnesses the will, widow Peter Butler d. ca1698. James Butler dies shortly thereafter and the children are raised by Richard Butler. We first find Wm, oldest son, in court records in 1718 in Richmond County, indicating he must be 21 and extrapolating back we give him birth ca 1697 and in 1715/6 when his father died he would have been 18. We also think John had a first wife as he refers to Elizabeth as "now wife" in the will. When Benjamin first shows up in court records it is 1729, extrapolate back and you have b. ca 1708. then John shows about 1727, thus b. ca 1706 and James shows up around 1731, thus b. ca 1710. In several court procedures John Willis stands up for the orphans - securing them in court and so forth. John's son Wm is married to Sarah Hawksford(?). Wm died shortly thereafter and his widow marries Henry Wood - the gentleman Wm is apprenticed to. Hawksfords are also neighbors as are both Willises - father and son. When Benjamin and brothers show up later in Orange Co. -- Benj is married to Sarah Willis, living near by his mother-in-law, brother-in-law and his brothers. Interesting thing also is that Wm that everybody likes to attach Benjamin to as his father is I suspect his big brother Wm b. 1697 -- who has sons Benjamin, John, and James. I also think they may have attached Wm's other brother James onto him as a son possibly- less sure on this one. Wm lives also lives near Benjamin in Chestnut Mt area in Orange Co.
I am rereading this entire blog post in 2019. I am struck by the possibility that orphan William Hawkins may have been a son from the first wife. Could the first wife have been related to Henry Wood? While the other orphans are children of Elizabeth who is likely related to the Butler men?
Chestnut Mt is called Clark Mountain in the below:
There is excellent information about this family on Janet Shahmiri's blog:
http://jaceychasinghistory.blogspot.com/search?q=John+Hawkins
Janet has narrowed land on which John Hawkins lived to a place near to the Carter land....at least that is what I am understanding with quick looking this morning. I will try to read this more closely and see just exactly what that corresponds with in my own research.
I will add information from Paticia J. Hurst's book tomorrow to this space. I changed my mind this morning. I will start a new blog dated Nov 28 with information on this Hawkins line in Orange and Culpeper Counties. That way a reader can continue with Northern Neck information on this blog entry and switch to a separate entry for the different location.
Friday, February 27, 2015
James and Rose Moore in Philadelphia 1684-1720
I am going to try to summarize here what I know and what I do not know about my 9-gr-grandparents, Joseph and Rose/Roose Moore. If you scroll down you will find lots more information about my research on this couple in other posts in February 2015. I learned so much about my ancestors and about the very early days of Philadelphia this past week that I can not begin to write it all down. However, there were a few things I wanted to note before life begins to blur my research. The area that is pictured below is almost certainly where the couple lived from 1684 until they sell the land in 1693. James is listed as a blacksmith in the "Philadelphia Business Directory of 1690" in the book, Colonial Philadelphians by Hannah Benner Roach (I own this book) for this time frame.
Everything that I have read has explained that while William Penn had a very clear master plan for the city of Philadelphia, the actual development did not follow his plan. Penn chose the site that is shown above as the center of the town. Of course, the City Hall pictured was built MUCH later. This site was to be a center open space that was square in shape. Penn pictured Philly to be a town with much green space everywhere. Not the helter skelter town that it has become.
William Penn had chosen the land where the Delaware and the Schuykill Rivers come close making the neck of land narrow for his new city. You can see the Center Square right in the middle of the map.
However, those who settled did their own thing. You can look at Elfreth's Alley to see that there is absolutely NO green space between the row houses that were built on that site. Jeremiah Elfreth died before 1700, so that Alley is VERY old. What really happened is that the settlers ended up settling along the Delaware River and ignored the center of the city and the land on the side of the city nearest the Schuykill River. So the Center square remained outside of the more heavily settled area in the early days.
Wikipedia says:
This information gives me the idea that James and Rose may have decided to move to the Delaware River front as they found that the center of the city did not develop as they had expected. James had spent his years while they lived at Center Square working on Penn's Mill and on the leaded glass windows at the Center Meeting house.
From Narratives of Early Pennsylvania, West Jersey and Delaware 1630-1707 Edited by Albert Cook Myers, Charles Scribners Sons NY 1912:
A footnote by Mr. Myers on page 271 says: "The Friends' Meeting House in the Centre Square of the city, midway between the Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers, where the City Hall now stands, was built of brick, in 1685-1686, and was used for a time for the more important First Day (Sunday) morning and business meetings of the society. The location being in the midst of the forest some little distance without the town, and its two or three streets along the Delaware, the meeting was not well attended; the Friends preferred to wait for the afternoon meeting at the Bank Meeting house, near at hand, within the town proper; consequently, in a few years the Centre Square meeting was abandoned."
My best guess is that James and Rose lived these truths and when the land just to the north of Vine Street (the northern boundary of Philadelphia) opened up, decided that they would move there in order that James' business would be more accessible to the population that was more heavily settled along the Delaware River. The area in which their land lay was in what is now the Northern Liberties:
The historical boundaries: Vine Street as the southern border and the Cohocksink Creek serving as the northern border. The creek now flows as a storm sewer under the following streets (starting at the Delaware River and running from southeast to northwest): Canal, Laurel, Bodine, Cambridge, and Orkney Streets.
The below is the map that Lynn sent to me that helped me locate the bank lot. Lynn says that the maps came from: The Philadelphia Map by Holmes was published in 1687. The northern Bank lot area came from the PA State Archive online.
James and Rose sold their Center Square lot in
James died in 1694.
Rose sold the Delaware River bank lot in 1709. Rose died in 1720. It is not likely that she moved outside of the city limits as her burial is recorded in the Philadelphia Meeting records. She is listed among the non-Quakers whose burial is recorded by.....
The one more piece of information that I want to add into this post deals with:
William Penn had chosen the land where the Delaware and the Schuykill Rivers come close making the neck of land narrow for his new city. You can see the Center Square right in the middle of the map.
However, those who settled did their own thing. You can look at Elfreth's Alley to see that there is absolutely NO green space between the row houses that were built on that site. Jeremiah Elfreth died before 1700, so that Alley is VERY old. What really happened is that the settlers ended up settling along the Delaware River and ignored the center of the city and the land on the side of the city nearest the Schuykill River. So the Center square remained outside of the more heavily settled area in the early days.
Wikipedia says:
However, the Delaware riverfront would remain the de facto economic and social heart of the city for more than a century.
This information gives me the idea that James and Rose may have decided to move to the Delaware River front as they found that the center of the city did not develop as they had expected. James had spent his years while they lived at Center Square working on Penn's Mill and on the leaded glass windows at the Center Meeting house.
From Narratives of Early Pennsylvania, West Jersey and Delaware 1630-1707 Edited by Albert Cook Myers, Charles Scribners Sons NY 1912:
A footnote by Mr. Myers on page 271 says: "The Friends' Meeting House in the Centre Square of the city, midway between the Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers, where the City Hall now stands, was built of brick, in 1685-1686, and was used for a time for the more important First Day (Sunday) morning and business meetings of the society. The location being in the midst of the forest some little distance without the town, and its two or three streets along the Delaware, the meeting was not well attended; the Friends preferred to wait for the afternoon meeting at the Bank Meeting house, near at hand, within the town proper; consequently, in a few years the Centre Square meeting was abandoned."
My best guess is that James and Rose lived these truths and when the land just to the north of Vine Street (the northern boundary of Philadelphia) opened up, decided that they would move there in order that James' business would be more accessible to the population that was more heavily settled along the Delaware River. The area in which their land lay was in what is now the Northern Liberties:
The historical boundaries: Vine Street as the southern border and the Cohocksink Creek serving as the northern border. The creek now flows as a storm sewer under the following streets (starting at the Delaware River and running from southeast to northwest): Canal, Laurel, Bodine, Cambridge, and Orkney Streets.
The below is the map that Lynn sent to me that helped me locate the bank lot. Lynn says that the maps came from: The Philadelphia Map by Holmes was published in 1687. The northern Bank lot area came from the PA State Archive online.
James and Rose sold their Center Square lot in
James died in 1694.
Rose sold the Delaware River bank lot in 1709. Rose died in 1720. It is not likely that she moved outside of the city limits as her burial is recorded in the Philadelphia Meeting records. She is listed among the non-Quakers whose burial is recorded by.....
The one more piece of information that I want to add into this post deals with:
PHILADELPHIA EXEMPLIFICATION BOOK
7,
pp 581-582, in archives of the
Historical Society of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
JAMES
MOORE’S LOT ON THE WEST SIDE OF SECOND STREET IN PHILADELPHIA, PURCHASED 12
OCTOBER 1691 AND CONVEYED BY DEED FROM JOHN MOORE, HIS SON & HEIR, TO
NICHOLAS PEARCE ON 2 JANUARY 1694, for use of the Quakers to build a meeting
house (James Moore having prior to his death agreed to the sale to Pearce and
Pearce having paid him the seven pounds price for it, the same being
acknowledged in the following deed by John Moore, son of James, in order to
convey title from Moore to Pearce and the Society of Friends.) [this information sent to me by Joseph Moore}
Sunday, October 5, 2014
Arnold Family connections with Hawkins families in Virginia in 1700's and 1800's
I have spent some time this weekend looking at transcriptions of documents and some actual documents for several of the Hawkins family groups that I research in Virginia in the 1700's and 1800's. While working on the John and Mary Long Hawkins family, I found the following map:
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/tafq/tafq1.htm
I love this map because it shows to me how easy it would be for families to be neighbors while living in the three separate counties of Spotsylvania, Louisa, and Hanover. These are three counties that I know much less about as I have gathered much more information about the Northern Neck, Orange, Culpeper, and Louisa Counites.
But in the back of my mind I was also thinking that I know a bit about this Arnold family! Hmmmmm what do I know?
So here is an accounting of the occurrences of interaction between Hawkins and Arnold that I have gathered over the years:
For my own proven Hawkins family I have an event in 1813 in Orange County in which the Zion Baptist Church is formed:
I love this map because it shows to me how easy it would be for families to be neighbors while living in the three separate counties of Spotsylvania, Louisa, and Hanover. These are three counties that I know much less about as I have gathered much more information about the Northern Neck, Orange, Culpeper, and Louisa Counites.
But in the back of my mind I was also thinking that I know a bit about this Arnold family! Hmmmmm what do I know?
So here is an accounting of the occurrences of interaction between Hawkins and Arnold that I have gathered over the years:
For my own proven Hawkins family I have an event in 1813 in Orange County in which the Zion Baptist Church is formed:
About three and one half miles south of Orange in the home of Brother Hawkins, with James Arnold, Roger Mallory, Nicolas Bickers, Joseph Atkins (clerk), James Perry (deacon), Killie Hoard, Benjamin Hawkins, Hamlet Sanford, John Rogers (deacon), William Bell, William Mallory, William Hancock, William Embry, Coleman Marshall (deacon), Henry Perry, John Churchill Gordon (pastor), and Thomas Hawkins, seventeen in all.
Thomas Hawkins is my 3-hr-grandfather and Brother Hawkins is his uncle, Benjamin. Who is this James Arnold? I have very little information about him.
And
Isaac Arnold was a witness for John and Elizabeth Butler (?)
Hawkins’s will: Is this the same Arnold family?
1. John Hawkins. John died in Mar 1716 in Hanover Par., Richmond
Co., VA.
John Hawkins married Elizabeth
Butler, and they are the parents of Benjamin Hawkins who m. Sarah Willis per
Newman Hall. See Hall mss. dated 9 JAN
1991 for family group sheet. Hall's note
reads "Will of John Hoakins, Hanover parish, dated 16 JAN 1715/16 recorded
7 March 1715/16 Richmond Co., VA Wills and Inventories 1709-1717 p. 235, Abst.
"now wife Elizabeth being at this time very sick and weak: if she dies, freeman John Suttle, Jr., which
now liveth with me to remain and live on the plantation whereon my family now
livith: sons William, John, Benjamin and James; daughters Sarah and
Elizabeth. Richard and James Butler to
care for six children but in case Henry Wood doth think fit to take son
William, I desire he may have him, providing the said Henry will learn him the
trade and calling of a plasterer; Richard Butler to take son John and daughters
Sarah and Elizabeth; James Butler to take sons Benjamin and James until age 20. Executor, friend Isaac Arnold, witnesses
Isaac Arnold, Rebecca Butler and John Suttle. Inventory recorded 4 July
1716. (Book and page not cited)
bef 10 Apr 1703 John married
Elizabeth Butler, daughter of Peter Butler & Rebecca.
They had the following children:
2 i. William
(-1776)
3 ii. John
4 iii. Benjamin
(~1708-~1784)
5 iv. James
6 v. Sarah
(-1826)
7 vi. Elizabeth
Is this the same Arnold family? John and Elizabeth are proven ancestors of many of my father's DNA matches and possibly my own ancestors....just don't know yet. OK...gotta quit for today....
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